Nixter (Customer) asked a question.

Cannot do Run-Time Transfers after upgrading to Productivity Suite 4.7.0.47

After I upgraded from Productivity Suite 4.6.1.7 to 4.7.0.47 I have started having problems doing run-time downloads to a P3-550E PLC.

 

The lower right-hand corner of the status bar shows that run-time Transfers are available, but when I try to do a run-time transfer an error message pops up saying "Project contains errors. Please see Problem Report". The Problem Report complains with the following message: "Run time edit size for data type 'UDI Instances' exceeded the maximum of 50000 bytes and stop mode transfer is required. Click Help for more information."

 

This is with a project that I had no issues doing run-time transfers with when using version 4.6.1.7

 

Something appears to have changed with 4.7.0.47Run-time-XFR-Error-Screenshot-2026-07-12 


  • kewakl (Customer)

    Look at File.Project properties

    Click the Calculate button.

    If Run Time Edit (RTE) is at 100%, then a runtime transfer is not available and a STOP mode transfer is required.

    See help topic P032 for more details.

     [Edit: It seems that some help file edits will be necessary to further describe the message in your screenshot]

  • ADC Community_02 (Automationdirect.com)

    @Nixter (Customer)​ Once you do a stop mode transfer then do a run time transfer are you still getting this error? If yes, then PM me your project so we can attempt to duplicate. Thanks!

    • Nixter (Customer)

      The pattern I have noticed is that my first download of the day has to be a stop-mode transfer, no matter how trivial an edit I may have made. After that 1st stop-mode transfer, run-time transfers are possible.

       

      I looked at the File.Properties.General tab and clicked on the "Calculate" button and I'm at 7% RTE. I'll paste the screen grab into this message.File.Properties.General tabHow do I PM you my project? I'd be happy to send it to you so you can see if you can duplicate it.

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  • ADC Community_02 (Automationdirect.com)

    Go to my messages and you will be able to create a new message and attach your system report.

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    • Nixter (Customer)

      Thanks for the tip. I just sent you the system report.

       

      Nick

  • ADC Community_02 (Automationdirect.com)

    Thanks for the provided system report!

     

    I tested online run time transfers using the program you provided, making incremental changes to my ladder project — first adding a new task, then a single rung, and finally ten complex rungs. All transfers completed successfully without issue, so I have been unable to reproduce the error described.

     

    To help further troubleshoot, could you please confirm:

     

    What firmware version is currently running on your P3-550E?

    Have you tested with a different CPU to determine whether the issue persists?"

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    • Nixter (Customer)

      Thank you for testing my project.

       

      What was your test environment? Since you were not able to reproduce the behaviour that I am encountering, I'm wondering if the reason you couldn't reproduce the behaviour was due to your test system not matching the system that I am working with. There's a lot of communication with a variety of devices from different manufacturers going on with the system I am working with: some using Modbus-TCP, some using Ethernet/IP. So the load and CPU activity of your test system is likely very different from the actual production conditions of the CPU in my case.

       

      I will be continuing to develop the program for my customer and expect that I will keep running into this behaviour (if past history is any guide) and it is quite disruptive to my customer, as I have to ask him to shut down two running distillation columns in order for me to conduct the stop-mode transfer.

       

      Is there anything I can do at my end that would provide you with the data that you need in order to fix this problem?

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  • ADC Community_02 (Automationdirect.com)

    We have been able to confirm and reproduce the issue you reported. This has been escalated to our development team for investigation and has been flagged as a high-priority item. Currently, no known workaround is available. Our team is actively working on a resolution.

  • mikeecbr (Customer)

    I have an exactly the same problem. Longest I don't close the Productivity Suite I'm good, but I can't have my software always on.

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