• PouchesInc (Customer)

    Typically you take a load cell signal into what is termed a "load cell amplifier". This takes your very low voltage (a few millivolts) signal from the load cell into a standard PLC signal type, usually 0-10v or 4-20ma signal.

     

    Someone from Host may be able to answer and confirm my idea here. Load cells typically have very low voltage output. It can range depending on the cell, but normally it is as low as 10-30mv and some load cells actually can go up to 1-2volts or so (though that is rare and depends on the type). You may be able to use a BRX thermocouple input module and wire the load cells directly to it. Probably not the most proper way to do things, but thermocouples are extremely low voltage signals like most load cells as well (generally thermocouple is 10-30mv from my understanding). You should theoretically be able to take your load cell signal into a thermocouple channel and then do scaling inside the PLC to get your voltage curve mapped to weight.

    The easiest way to set your scaling up would most likely be to take your scale unit with the load cell and have 5 or so calibration weights of different sizes, then place the smallest weight on the scale. Record the input voltage the PLC has, and repeat for all your weights. Then in the software, set up your scaling instruction and list your different voltages as points of the scale curve, and tell it what the weight range is that you already know. Should be that simple.

     

    You may also be able to use one of these signal conditioners to change from the extremely low voltage up to a 0-10v or 4-20ma level that can then go into a PLCs standard analog inputs:

    https://www.automationdirect.com/adc/shopping/catalog/process_control_-a-_measurement/digital_panel_meters/1-z-8_din_size/dpm3-at-a-h

    https://www.automationdirect.com/adc/shopping/catalog/process_control_-a-_measurement/signal_conditioners/universal_input/scu-1400

    https://www.automationdirect.com/adc/shopping/catalog/process_control_-a-_measurement/signal_conditioners/programmable_temperature_transmitters_(t-z-c_or_rtd_input)/xth-0-unv

     

    The digital panel meter option from that list above may be a nice solution if you dont want to go straight into a BRX thermocouple module, because the panel meter can scale in the unit so you could make it display the weight right on it. Though just going straight into a BRX thermocouple unit would be the cheapest option by far if it is possible (it should be). A BX-08THM module would be able to do 8 inputs right into the PLC for only $222, much cheaper than any other option I know of.

    While these options are not officially a load cell amplifier, it functions the same way, taking a very low millivolt level signal and turning it into a PLC level signal.

     

    edit: here is an actual load cell amplifier if you would like that option instead since it has a nice display readout and costs similar to the other options I listed:

    https://loadcellsys.com/product/tle-load-cell-amplifier/

    https://loadcellsys.com/product/tlb-rs485-load-cell-transmitter/

     

    What model load cells do you have?

     

     

    edit: as for how to handle the excitation voltage required for the load cell, many work on 5, 10, and 12 volts and typically have a max voltage of 15 to 18v. This means depending on the model and weight you will be using a standard 5v or 12v power supply could be used to power all your cells.

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  • Neske (Customer)

    ok I believe the route I am going to go is a analog load cell amplifier sending to a BX-04AD-1 and write a program from there. Thanks for you help and input.

  • RBPLC (Customer)

    PouchesInc is correct about theoretically being able to read them with TC modules but save yourself the hassle and get something that is purpose built to handle load cells. You'll be money/time ahead in the long run.

  • Cap (Customer)

    Last Century I did a similar Project but had to go to a SLOW IBM PC.. But I think the Same way I did it last Century still applies here..

     

    Get a Digital Read out Scale that will output to a Printer at a Perpetual Stream Serial Output, then Grab the Serial Output and capture the Weight that way..

  • garyhlucas (Customer)

    Just worked with a customer to get data from a Mettler Toledo Scale by serial connection to BRX. Seems to be working well, and they get lots more than just weight, like taring the scale, signal stability etc.

  • Gerry (Customer)

    I have a similar project going on, wondering what brand amplifier you went with. Also I have a multiple load cell requirement. I'm trying to decide if I should go with individual amps, then do all the math internally to combined them, or by a multiple input amp, then send the one combined signal to the PLC.

     

    Any insight would be helpful.

  • .Bob. (Customer)

    I went with Arlyn Scales for a project in our plant. If you do NOT purchase the optional LED display the scale output is 4-20mA.

  • z28z34man (Customer)

    I have used a P1AM with a scale over serial. With the press of a button the P1AM sends a read weight command the scale outputs the data and the P1AM types the weight in to the computer over USB as a HID keyboard.