Marco (Customer) asked a question.

Need help to understand a basic PLC connection problem

I am going to buy a sinking PLC (1st picture).

I will need to buy a sourcing sensor (PNP sensor, 2nd picture) to use in this PLC.

I will connect 24V to brown wire of the sensor, 0V to the blue wire of the sensor.

I will connect the black wire of the sensor to X1 of the PLC. AND I will connect 24V to C1

Is any of my understanding incorrect??

 

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  • ADC_PLC_ENG (AutomationDirect)

    The Inputs can be sinking or sourcing.

    With the sensor shown you would connect:

     

    24 V+ > Brown wire of the sensor

    24V - > Blue wire of the sensor & C1 on PLC

    Black wire of the sensor >X1 on PLC

     

    See attached pdf from chapter 3 of the Click manual that details sinking/sourcing wiring for inputs and outputs.

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  • ADC_PLC_ENG (AutomationDirect)

    The Inputs can be sinking or sourcing.

    With the sensor shown you would connect:

     

    24 V+ > Brown wire of the sensor

    24V - > Blue wire of the sensor & C1 on PLC

    Black wire of the sensor >X1 on PLC

     

    See attached pdf from chapter 3 of the Click manual that details sinking/sourcing wiring for inputs and outputs.

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    • Marco (Customer)

      I am a little confused here.

       

      =====Sensor======

      I copied the 2nd picture from the 2nd page of this pdf, it says that the operation voltage is 10V-30V

      https://cdn.automationdirect.com/static/specs/prox12mmam.pdf

      Should 'L-' from the 2nd page of the above pdf is 0V or -24V?

       

      ====PLC=====

      Let go back to the PLC

      Should C1 be ground or C1 be -24V?

      I asked this because there is 24VDC from the 1st picture. If I connect C1 to be -24V, then the sensor input to the system have total 48VDC of potential difference.

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      • ADC_PLC_ENG (AutomationDirect)

        C1 will be your common. In your case that would be the Negative, O VDC line, or negative from the 24VDC power supply. Which is what I meant by 24V -.

         

        SO C1 and L- would be connected to the negative side of your dc power supply.

         

        See the power supply on the diagram of the pdf I attached.

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      • 0 VDC = -24VDC it just depends on which side of the tracks you grew up on.

         

        The 24 represents the DC source voltage. While + or - represents which terminal.

         

        Something most of use are familiar with is a car battery. There are 2 terminals Positive and Negative. The terminals could be accurately described as +12VDC and -12VDC.

         

        If you test voltage between the positive terminal (+12VDC) and the negative terminal (-12VDC) you get 12VDC. The + or - on the meter tells you which way electrons are moving through the meter.

         

        Where a lot of people get confused is that they think of an analog signal and a power supply as the same thing. Power supplies want to put out the same constant voltage.

         

        I've been seeing increasing use of the term voltage potential. Seems to have become a buzz word. Probably because more people are playing with circuit boards. Voltage potential is really a misnomer. Voltage = Electrical Potential = Electromotive Force (unless you are feeling extra sciencey). All of which means I get a value X when I measure between A and B.

         

        Even if we had a -10VDC to 10VDC analog signal the max Voltage / Electrical Potential / Electromotive Force would be 10 volts. The signal range would be 20 volts though.

         

        Hope this helps to clarify things for you. If not there is a pretty good chance someone else will say it differently and you'll have that ah ha moment.

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  • Inputs on that one can be sink or source it just depends on which way you wire it. Wire -24VDC (0V) to C1 for Sinking Inputs.

     

    The outputs are sinking. Personally unless there is a REALLY good reason (I've yet to find one) I won't use sinking output.

     

    4 (Black) is the signal wire and is positive on a PNP sensor.

     

    -24VDC on C1 for Sinking Inputs

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    • Marco (Customer)

      Thanks for teaching me

      • Happy to help.

         

        I did have one other thing I wanted to mention.

         

        -VDC and 0VDC are used interchangeably.

         

        They are also often called common, but the common doesn't have to be - it could be + . The sinking outputs on that PLC for example would use a + common.

         

        Common really means the side of the circuit that everything shares. Another way to look at it is if I can jump a wire between a bunch of devices on the same side of the circuit and not effect how the circuit functions that side is common.

         

        Ground / Earth / PE are entirely different. While occasionally a design will tie the common to ground I would advise that you don't.

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    • Marco (Customer)

      Thanks for the information