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Created Date: April 22,2014
Created By: rlcguy
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Does anyone have some background they could share regarding the amount of line noise generated by a Durapulse drive? My foreman is giving me the old because they are so "cheap " they must be very noisy. I am interested to know if someone has info comparing them to other brands. I do see that AD recommends line and load side filtering. Just curious if anyone has had issues themselves, or their utility coming back and requiring filters?
Created Date: June 08,2014
Created by: automa
I have replaced many AB and Yaskawa drives with the GS drives without any issues. The GS drives use the same underlying components as any other drive so there shouldn't be any issues. The GS drives I installed 5 years ago are still working without any problems.
Created Date: June 09,2014
Created by: rlcguy
Thanks automa. Have you ever done any metering though? I have never had an issue with them either in terms of doing their job. Was just curioous if someone had some real world harmonics data they might share. I prefer it be from some electrician and not from another manufacturer.
Created Date: July 30,2014
Created by: daturner
Imho
Does anyone have some background they could share regarding the amount of line noise generated by a Durapulse drive? My foreman is giving me the old because they are so "cheap " they must be very noisy. I am interested to know if someone has info comparing them to other brands. I do see that AD recommends line and load side filtering. Just curious if anyone has had issues themselves, or their utility coming back and requiring filters?
As long as you use the line reactors there shouldn't be an issue. We have installed several AC drives in place of old obsolete DC drives without any problems AS LONG AS we used the line reactors.
We have installed Siemens, Yaskawa, Automation Direct brands, ABB ect...no issues.
Created Date: July 30,2014
Created by: Adisharr
As long as you use the line reactors there shouldn't be an issue. We have installed several AC drives in place of old obsolete DC drives without any problems AS LONG AS we used the line reactors.
We have installed Siemens, Yaskawa, Automation Direct brands, ABB ect...no issues.
Same here, line reactors really make a difference in some applications. On the small drives I almost never use them but around 5-7 HP I throw them in. A good shielded motor cable helps as well.
Created Date: July 30,2014
Created by: daturner
motor cable
Same here, line reactors really make a difference in some applications. On the small drives I almost never use them but around 5-7 HP I throw them in. A good shielded motor cable helps as well.
We always prefer to use a good shielded motor cable BUT if that isn't possible ( usually the cost) then always make sure you run the power to the motor is it's separate conduit all alone. Nothing else except maybe the thermal wires. That will help with noise.
The shielded motor cable is made special for high frequency AC drive applications...or so they say. :)
Created Date: August 01,2014
Created by: Adisharr
We always prefer to use a good shielded motor cable BUT if that isn't possible ( usually the cost) then always make sure you run the power to the motor is it's separate conduit all alone. Nothing else except maybe the thermal wires. That will help with noise.
The shielded motor cable is made special for high frequency AC drive applications...or so they say. :)
You 're right about the cost, I had to buy some flexible IGUS cable for a long gantry application and it was extremely expensive :eek:
Created Date: September 03,2014
Created by: alice
agree but the US has to follow the Euro specs now. Very few if any drives and controls are made here in the USA anymore.
Remember ISO 9000 crap? Well all that did was force the US to conform to European specs.
Created Date: September 03,2014
Created by: jwbaker3
Most Yaskawa drives for the U.S. Market are made in Illinois or Wisconsin (expect the Mini). Very impressive factories. We setup several 1200 hp regen drives and went for training and run off of the drives before delivery to the customer. I agree ISO 9000/9004 does not mean something is done right, just the same way every time. (At least on the paperwork) So if the part has a flaw they all will have the same flaw. It has nothing to do with improving anything. But it cost a lot of money to get certified, and a lot of time to do the paper work. Has anyone looked at Europe's unemployment and financial problems? Why would we want to be do the same things?????? We try as much as possible to use/sell products made here in the U.S.A. That is one of the reasons we use the Do-More on as many projects as possible. (It is also a great product from a great company)
JW
Created Date: September 10,2014
Created by: ICS
As long as you use the line reactors there shouldn't be an issue.
If have any analog IO in your system, also consider load reactors. We use RTDs with DL06s and GS2 drives. Without, readings are extremely unstable, but smooth out well with load reactors and a little ladder logic dampening. After hours of trying various grounding and shielding combinations, significant signal quality improvement only came with the addition of load reactors.
PS: Also consider load reactors for motor runs longer than 50 '.
Created Date: September 24,2014
Created by: rlcguy
Thanks...
... for all of the replies.
ICS- are you saying that your RTD readings are very unstable without the load reactors? Are the RTD cables shielded? Good info to know.