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DL-05 and variable output voltage

Created Date: April 15,2005

Created By: EdWood

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Hi all- I have panel voltmeter that I want to use off the PLC. It displays to voltage 1-1, so I need to have a range up to 12V. I am using it to display the height of an object driven by a gear, which generates a pulse every revolution. Putting this info into a counter, I would like to use the counter value divided by some factor to output the corresponding voltage. For example, if the device were 6 feet high, the PLC would output 6V and the meter would read 6. Ideally, I would like the PLC to output in realtime so that the numbers on the meter go up as it the device moves. (It can only be moved in 3ft increments.) I have basic ladder logic programming skills but I'm not sure how to do this. thanks! -Ed


  • adccommunitymod (AutomationDirect)

    Created Date: April 15,2005

    Created by: EdWood

    Hi all-

    I have panel voltmeter that I want to use off the PLC. It displays to voltage 1-1, so I need to have a range up to 12V. I am using it to display the height of an object driven by a gear, which generates a pulse every revolution. Putting this info into a counter, I would like to use the counter value divided by some factor to output the corresponding voltage. For example, if the device were 6 feet high, the PLC would output 6V and the meter would read 6.

    Ideally, I would like the PLC to output in realtime so that the numbers on the meter go up as it the device moves. (It can only be moved in 3ft increments.) I have basic ladder logic programming skills but I'm not sure how to do this.

    thanks!

    -Ed

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  • adccommunitymod (AutomationDirect)

    Created Date: April 15,2005

    Created by: Gerry

    12V isn't a standard output voltage from a PLC.

    Which PLC and analog out are you using?

    I would buy a new meter that reads a standard signal that's 0-5v, or 0-10V, or 4-20mA, I prefer 4-20mA. Cost is about $200-250, or use an EZ-Text.

    Then your PLC will have no problem signaling the meter.

    Or you may be able to find a signal converter from standard to 0-12V.

    Otherwise it looks like you have a solid plan!! http://forum1.automationdirect.com/board/smile.gif

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  • adccommunitymod (AutomationDirect)

    Created Date: April 15,2005

    Created by: EdWood

    I am using the DL-05, which is speced out at having a 6-27V output. I assumed (perhaps wrongly) that I could tell it exactly what voltage to output.

    The meter itself will read from 0-27V, and since I want to display from 0-12, it seemed to be a good choice.

    Looks like I'll have to get a new meter either way, but can you tell me how exactly to vary the voltage on output? Maybe I'll get a little text meter, in which case, is that also an easy programming step?

    thanks a lot,

    -Ed

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  • adccommunitymod (AutomationDirect)

    Created Date: April 15,2005

    Created by: Rday

    Ed,

    Are you using a analog card in the 05? The discrete DC outputs are either on or off. The 6-27 volt rating refers to the voltage level the unit will switch. If you dont have one you will need an analog card such as the F0-4AD2DA-2 to do what you want.

  • adccommunitymod (AutomationDirect)

    Created Date: April 15,2005

    Created by: marksji

    Get a text display from AD and don't bother with the meter. It will be easier to program and you won't need an anlog out card for the 05.

  • adccommunitymod (AutomationDirect)

    Created Date: April 15,2005

    Created by: yank38

    If I read correctly you intend to count the gear rotations for the actual height. Is 1 pulse per rev going to give you the precision you require? Also how will you handle knowing which direction you are traveling? An encoder on the gear shaft could fix that. Then get a text panel and be done. Don't need the meter or analog card.

  • adccommunitymod (AutomationDirect)

    Created Date: April 15,2005

    Created by: EdWood

    I intended to use a proximity sensor to measure the revolutions, though I'm not sure the one I have will work with the PLC anymore. The resolution of 1 rev is fine, as this thing is to move up in 3ft increments and it moves .1 " every revolution. That degree of accuracy is aceptable.

    As for handling the direction, I tell the PLC to set 1 of 2 directional outputs to on (while resetting the other) based on input switch postion. In this way, I use the output as one of the variables in an up down counter, so it moves up or down accordingly.

    The only reason I orignally strayed from an encoder option is we weren't about much of the mechanics at the time ( a few months ago) and the proximity switch seemed the best choice, especially since there is still a good chance that the sensor will get pretty dirty (saltwater & hydraulic fluid).

    Ok that being said, I looked at the text panels from automation direct and they are just too pricy. I am trying to find a panel mount up/down counter with scaling that I might be able to tell up or down with the signals I mentioned above and then sending the sensor output to both the plc and the counter.

    Does that seem like a good idea? Or should I possibly scrap the proximity sensor and use a cheap encoder?

    Sorry for all this info...just getting down to the wire here and trying to find a solution fast.

    thanks,

    -Ed

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  • adccommunitymod (AutomationDirect)

    Created Date: April 15,2005

    Created by: marksji

    The prox switch should work just fine the way you 've described everything. As for the screens, I'm pretty sure you can find a cheaper solution here than going to analog, then to a meter...

    DV-1000 $169

    F0-2AD2DA-2 $149 + volt meter