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Please suggest a fingerprint scanner to use with P3-550 & C-more EA9
Created Date: January 16,2019
Created By: strantor
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Anybody know of a fingerprint scanner that speaks a non-proprietary language that I can interface with P3000 and/or EA9 to control access to certain functions? All I can find that seems like it will work is Schneider XB5S4 which only has a single digital output. That doesn't tell me WHO just successfully scanned.
Created Date: January 16,2019
Created by: strantor
Anybody know of a fingerprint scanner that speaks a non-proprietary language that I can interface with P3000 and/or EA9 to control access to certain functions? All I can find that seems like it will work is Schneider XB5S4 which only has a single digital output. That doesn't tell me WHO just successfully scanned.
Created Date: January 20,2019
Created by: z28z34man
I have no idea if it would work with a cmore but proface has a fingerprint scanner for there HMI. For the Cmore you would need something that acts as a hid device and is pre programed with the finger prints and outputs as a keyboard when a fingerprint found. I have barcode code scanners and badge scanners working on Cmores haven't tried fingerprint readers the union would have a fit if I tried though.
http://www.profaceamerica.com/node/26934
Created Date: January 22,2019
Created by: Brandon_
There are some scanners that I 've comes across that work over TTL serial, so that might be usable for you. You would need to build a converter from TTL serial to RS232 or RS485 that the P3 uses. I made a custom PCB for these as I use TTL serial devices connected to P2 daily.
The other option would be to do 2 factor authentication using the Schneider that you found in conjunction with an employee name badge, either mag stripe, barcode or RFID. The fingerprint would be the main method of authentication, with the ID card serving as a second form of authentication plus being able to give you serial data of WHO scanned their finger.
Created Date: January 23,2019
Created by: LBM
A little background:
- I have worked in the electronic security industry 30 years.
- Biometric readers generally work with on an industry standard Wiegand interface. Simply, two TTLish data lines representing 0 and 1 in a 26 to 80 bit data stream. The bits are grouped into 2 to 4 binary number with parity check bits. The common groupings are Batch Code (generally referred to a site or facility code) and ID number. Less common are Version (or Issue) Number and Vendor ID.
- A typical 26 bit card format is:
bit 0 - Parity of bits 1 to 12
bits 1 to 8 Facility Code ( 8 bits - 0 to 255)
bit 9 to 24 ID Number ( 16 bits - 0 to 65,535)
bit 25 Parity of bits 13 to 24
- There are standard card reader that provide a RS485 / Modbus interface, but I have not yet seen a Biometric that will work directly with the serial port without and interface blackbox.
Back to your issue:
I like the Morpho Access SIGMA Lite https://www.morpho.com/en/biometric-terminals/access-control-terminals/fingerprint-terminals/morphoaccess-sigma-lite-series
Finger print reader will provide a dry relay output, will work in a standard mode or server application environment......
Alternatively: the Techsphere Hand Vascular reader... http://www.vascularscanner.com/techsphere.htm If you application is in a dirty environment this may be the better option.
There are number of converters on the market that will convert the wiegand data to serial / Modbus. I have used this model: https://www.m2mcontrol.de/de/produkte/wtsc_485_en I have not found a Modbus TCP/IP version.
Alternatively, you could use single door access control module between the reader (wiegand data) to a PLC input from a grant access relay contact closure. The aPOD from http://onlinesecuritytech.com/index.php is a easy to use PoE module that you customer can manage through a web page.
My two cents,
Lloyd