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What is the big difference between P2-550 and P3-550?

Created Date: May 06,2018

Created By: strantor

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P2-550 = $255 P3-550 = $799 ____________ $544 (313%) difference When I use the Product Selection Tool , the only selection which drops Productivity 2000 out of the running is that Productivity 3000 supports Local I/O expansion, where Productivity 2000 does not. Is that really the only major difference? Looking at the pretty pictures, I see the obvious differences in ports; USB Vs SD for storage, Micro vs Type B for USB programming. Both those differences together plus the local I/O expansion do not seem like they would justify a >3X difference in price. So I am left wondering what else could be different, that isn't obvious, or that requires more in-depth reading. Maybe I underestimate the value of expansion local I/O. But is there any difference in the instruction sets or other area that makes Productivity 3000 a 313% more capable controller? EDIT: To be clear, I am not complaining about the price of Productivity 3000. It seems an excellent value. I'm just wondering what "gotchas " lie in store for me if I opt for the Productivity 2000, since I won't need expansion local I/O.


  • adccommunitymod (AutomationDirect)

    Created Date: May 06,2018

    Created by: strantor

    P2-550 = $255

    P3-550 = $799

    ____________

    $544 (313%) difference

    When I use the Product Selection Tool , the only selection which drops Productivity 2000 out of the running is that Productivity 3000 supports Local I/O expansion, where Productivity 2000 does not.

    Is that really the only major difference? Looking at the pretty pictures, I see the obvious differences in ports; USB Vs SD for storage, Micro vs Type B for USB programming. Both those differences together plus the local I/O expansion do not seem like they would justify a>3X difference in price. So I am left wondering what else could be different, that isn't obvious, or that requires more in-depth reading. Maybe I underestimate the value of expansion local I/O. But is there any difference in the instruction sets or other area that makes Productivity 3000 a 313% more capable controller?

    EDIT:

    To be clear, I am not complaining about the price of Productivity 3000. It seems an excellent value. I'm just wondering what "gotchas " lie in store for me if I opt for the Productivity 2000, since I won't need expansion local I/O.

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  • adccommunitymod (AutomationDirect)

    Created Date: May 06,2018

    Created by: strantor

    I'm not just sitting around waiting for answers; I'm also looking. I'm playing with the Productivity software and found another difference.

    The P3000 has 64pt input cards where the P2000 only has 32pt input cards

  • adccommunitymod (AutomationDirect)

    Created Date: May 06,2018

    Created by: kewakl

    A dig at FactsEng ----- The P2 has a MUCH BETTER LOOKING (and hopefully) longer lived display!

    -- When will you deliver a replacement OLED for the P3? The P1 P3 lcd is junk!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    https://forum.automationdirect.com/f...117&type=small

    fix typo p1 -> P3 thx todd

  • adccommunitymod (AutomationDirect)

    Created Date: May 06,2018

    Created by: kewakl

    I'm not just sitting around waiting for answers; I'm also looking....

    from the downloadable product inserts...

    P3 / P2

    Real USB port / wimpy USB port

    P3-550,P3-550E,P3-530 / P2-550

    remote RX + RS / RS only

    17 / 9 base groups (1 local + 16 remote / 1 local + 8 remote)

    59,840 / 4,320 IO max

    32 / 16 GS drives

    ModbusTCP clients - servers

    32-32 / 32-16

    EtherNet/IP scanner - adapter

    128-16 / 32-4

    I do not know if it matters to you: the P3 has a UL1604 ( ANSI/ISA 12.12.01-2000 ) agency approval, whereas I do not see this for the P2.

    P2 hardware is smaller and 'less physically rigid ' than the P3

    I don't have much history with the plastic housing on the P2, but I have had some fatigue with the P3. The battery holder gave up and broke.

    It was well within its specified 0 - 60C operating temperature -- not sure of the humidity.

    Note: it was the dark plastic holder (at the metal hinge pin), not the P3 housing that gave up.

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  • adccommunitymod (AutomationDirect)

    Created Date: May 06,2018

    Created by: strantor

    from the downloadable product inserts...

    P3 / P2

    Real USB port / wimpy USB port

    P3-550,P3-550E,P3-530 / P2-550

    remote RX + RS / RS only

    17 / 9 base groups (1 local + 16 remote / 1 local + 8 remote)

    59,840 / 4,320 IO max

    32 / 16 GS drives

    ModbusTCP clients - servers

    32-32 / 32-16

    EtherNet/IP scanner - adapter

    128-16 / 32-4

    I do not know if it matters to you: the P3 has a UL1604 ( ANSI/ISA 12.12.01-2000 ) agency approval, whereas I do not see this for the P2.

    P2 hardware is smaller and 'less physically rigid ' than the P3

    I don't have much history with the plastic housing on the P2, but I have had some fatigue with the P3. The battery holder gave up and broke.

    It was well within its specified 0 - 60C operating temperature -- not sure of the humidity.

    Note: it was the dark plastic holder (at the metal hinge pin), not the P3 housing that gave up.

    Thank you! Excellent info. You did save me from making a mistake! P2 does not support enough Ethernet/IP devices for my needs. I did not catch that.

    It's the scanners I care about, not the adapters, but in playing with this new knowledge I found the Ethernet/IP adapters for P3000 only has 4 tabs just like the P2000.

    Does not necessarily correlate with ? Is it implied that up to 16 scanners read from the 4 same adapters?

    { "data-align ": "none ", "data-attachmentid ": "113098 ", "data-size ": "medium "}

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  • adccommunitymod (AutomationDirect)

    Created Date: May 16,2018

    Created by: PLC_PM

    Just so we 're clear on the semantics ... The dialog you show in your pic above is configuring the P2000 as an EtherNet/IP Adapter (server/slave), to communicate to some other EtherNet/IP Scanner (client/master).

    So if that's what you 're looking to do, then yes, you can configure the P2000 to serve data to 4 different EtherNet/IP Scanners. The I/O data arrays within each data block can be between 1 - 500 bytes of data.

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  • adccommunitymod (AutomationDirect)

    Created Date: May 17,2018

    Created by: Ridgeline Mach

    A dig at FactsEng ----- The P2 has a MUCH BETTER LOOKING (and hopefully) longer lived display!

    -- When will you deliver a replacement OLED for the P3? The P1 lcd is junk!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    https://forum.automationdirect.com/filedata/fetch?id=111117&type=small

    The P1 has an LCD? { "data-align ": "none ", "data-size ": "medium ", "data-attachmentid ":113326}

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  • adccommunitymod (AutomationDirect)

    Created Date: May 17,2018

    Created by: kewakl

    The P1 has an LCD? { "alt ": "Click image for larger version Name:\tl_p1540.jpg Views:\t1 Size:\t113.4 KB ID:\t113326 ", "data-align ": "none ", "data-attachmentid ": "113326 ", "data-size ": "medium "}

    Well the LCD is junk! Just look at it:o

    But really, mental block. That should be P3 lcd is junk. Good catch.

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  • adccommunitymod (AutomationDirect)

    Created Date: May 17,2018

    Created by: Ridgeline Mach

    { "data-align ": "none ", "data-size ": "small ", "data-attachmentid ":113336} Fixed it for you.

  • adccommunitymod (AutomationDirect)

    Created Date: May 17,2018

    Created by: kewakl

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