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Created Date: October 11,2017
Created By: Niese
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Good Evening Everyone, These are probably going to be pretty basic questions so please bear with me, but I am trying to spec out the proper equipment to control a linear actuator with built in potentiometer. I currently have a productivity 2000 plc, power supply and random input/output cards that I am currently using. I am thinking about toying around with a electric motor to control some functions on my project and have some questions for you. The linear actuator I want to buy is in the link below (as a side note I need to control this to hit 13 different positions, one after another. Accuracy is not a huge concern for this application); https://www.progressiveautomations.com/linear-actuator-with-potentiometer Basically I want to control to 13 different positions using the potentiometer it has built in (I have attached a sheet with more info for the potentiometer). So my questions for you are; 1: Should I buy a drive to control this? The drive I am thinking about is in the link below; https://cdn.automationdirect.com/static/manuals/ihdcdrivem/gsd1-48-um.pdf Im not sure if the drive takes input from the pot and then controls the motor. I think I need to buy a signal conditioner to take in the pot feed back and then the plc tells the drive what to do. the signal conditioner I am looking at is below; https://www.automationdirect.com/adc/Shopping/Catalog/Process_Control_-a-_Measurement/Signal_Conditioners/DC_Voltage,_Current_or_Potentiometer_Input/FC-P3 Maybe I am thinking about this all wrong, I figured I would ask you all before I bought everything. I was just going to just plug it in and start toying around with it and if I can get it to work then well that would be something. Thanks for your help everyone. Niese
Created Date: October 11,2017
Created by: Niese
Good Evening Everyone,
These are probably going to be pretty basic questions so please bear with me, but I am trying to spec out the proper equipment to control a linear actuator with built in potentiometer. I currently have a productivity 2000 plc, power supply and random input/output cards that I am currently using. I am thinking about toying around with a electric motor to control some functions on my project and have some questions for you. The linear actuator I want to buy is in the link below (as a side note I need to control this to hit 13 different positions, one after another. Accuracy is not a huge concern for this application);
https://www.progressiveautomations.com/linear-actuator-with-potentiometer
Basically I want to control to 13 different positions using the potentiometer it has built in (I have attached a sheet with more info for the potentiometer). So my questions for you are;
1: Should I buy a drive to control this? The drive I am thinking about is in the link below;
https://cdn.automationdirect.com/static/manuals/ihdcdrivem/gsd1-48-um.pdf
Im not sure if the drive takes input from the pot and then controls the motor. I think I need to buy a signal conditioner to take in the pot feed back and then the plc tells the drive what to do. the signal conditioner I am looking at is below;
https://www.automationdirect.com/adc/Shopping/Catalog/Process_Control_-a-_Measurement/Signal_Conditioners/DC_Voltage,_Current_or_Potentiometer_Input/FC-P3
Maybe I am thinking about this all wrong, I figured I would ask you all before I bought everything. I was just going to just plug it in and start toying around with it and if I can get it to work then well that would be something. Thanks for your help everyone.
Niese
Created Date: October 11,2017
Created by: Adisharr
You might be able to get fairly good control w/o a drive. These types of linear actuators usually have fairly repeatable accel /decel rates so with a bit of experimentation you could probably get pretty close to your target position. You could always add a drive after if needed.
The drive listed can accept an analog signal (see page 8, note on top) w/o an add-on card. You could also use a few relays with fixed resistors to select between two or three speeds. That would get you right on target. You would just have to create some speed zones to switch between as you came closer to your target position.
Created Date: October 11,2017
Created by: Niese
ok, so if I do not use a drive it is my understanding that I will need the signal conditioner so my plc can recognize the feedback from the pot? And vise versa if I use a drive can the drive recognize feed back from the pot? I agree with you and will probably end trying it without the drive and then add it later if needed. I just want to make that the other equipment I tried spec 'ing out is indeed the correct hardware for what i am trying to achieve and also that this is possible. FYI I have zero experience in this I am a mechanical engineer trying to learn in a sparky world.
Thanks,
Niese
Created Date: October 11,2017
Created by: Cap
The Pot will usually be some thing like a 10K .. The Speks do not list it..
If you have an Voltage analog card in your PLC toy pile, just feed it it from the Pot Sig, and you will get a reference voltage for a position readable at the PLC..
Cap
Created Date: October 11,2017
Created by: ADC_CommTeam01
The P2-RTD can be set to have a resistance input.
Created Date: October 11,2017
Created by: bcarlton
The product PDF shows a 10Kohm pot with non committed leads. https://www.progressiveautomations.com/media/catalog/pdf/Linear_Actuator_with_Potentiometer_PA-14P.pdf